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		<title>By: RP</title>
		<link>http://tomatonation.com/culture-and-criticism/yes-you-are/comment-page-3/#comment-81307</link>
		<dc:creator>RP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 19:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never-not once- met a single person who actually wants equality.  Some come closer than others, but everyone will back off if you investigate closely enough.  I know this because my experience in trying to treat people equally usually ends up madder than treating them &quot;differently&quot; for lack of better word.  And often times, the worst offenders are the ones who claim the loudest (or most often) they are fighting for equality.  Go and say programs aimed solely at women with nothing remotely resembling the sort for men should be eliminated and see how fast the supposedly equality-fighting feminists turn on you.  Ask why there are more women&#039;s colleges than men&#039;s and why women&#039;s groups are seen as okay while men&#039;s are seen as sexist.  Say girls shouldn&#039;t be allowed to play on boys&#039; sports teams because they have their own, and boys aren&#039;t allowed to go the reverse route even if there is no similar sport for them.  And for God&#039;s sake, never, ever say domestic violence should not be treated as anything but a bunch of men abusing women, or that ANYTHING in society is a disadvantage to men.

To be fair, none of this is limited to feminists.  It&#039;s also true of pretty much anyone else, including civil rights activists, sexuality rights activists, etc.  It&#039;s true of men as well as women.  But this article focuses on feminists, so I am too.

Note that I&#039;m not saying feminists are all evil sexists out to conquer men.  A significant percentage, more than most of the feminists here would ever care to admit, do fit that definition and cannot be ignored, particularly since they are often the ones with the loudest voices.  Much more good could be done for the image of feminism by speaking out against those types of feminists than anything else.  But I know not nearly every feminist is like that.  Some do accomplish good things, and some good things have come from the feminist movement.  But let&#039;s not try to pretend they&#039;re something they&#039;re not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never-not once- met a single person who actually wants equality.  Some come closer than others, but everyone will back off if you investigate closely enough.  I know this because my experience in trying to treat people equally usually ends up madder than treating them &#034;differently&#034; for lack of better word.  And often times, the worst offenders are the ones who claim the loudest (or most often) they are fighting for equality.  Go and say programs aimed solely at women with nothing remotely resembling the sort for men should be eliminated and see how fast the supposedly equality-fighting feminists turn on you.  Ask why there are more women&#039;s colleges than men&#039;s and why women&#039;s groups are seen as okay while men&#039;s are seen as sexist.  Say girls shouldn&#039;t be allowed to play on boys&#039; sports teams because they have their own, and boys aren&#039;t allowed to go the reverse route even if there is no similar sport for them.  And for God&#039;s sake, never, ever say domestic violence should not be treated as anything but a bunch of men abusing women, or that ANYTHING in society is a disadvantage to men.</p>
<p>To be fair, none of this is limited to feminists.  It&#039;s also true of pretty much anyone else, including civil rights activists, sexuality rights activists, etc.  It&#039;s true of men as well as women.  But this article focuses on feminists, so I am too.</p>
<p>Note that I&#039;m not saying feminists are all evil sexists out to conquer men.  A significant percentage, more than most of the feminists here would ever care to admit, do fit that definition and cannot be ignored, particularly since they are often the ones with the loudest voices.  Much more good could be done for the image of feminism by speaking out against those types of feminists than anything else.  But I know not nearly every feminist is like that.  Some do accomplish good things, and some good things have come from the feminist movement.  But let&#039;s not try to pretend they&#039;re something they&#039;re not.</p>
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		<title>By: Teach children lying liars lie &#124; Edinburgh Eye</title>
		<link>http://tomatonation.com/culture-and-criticism/yes-you-are/comment-page-3/#comment-81243</link>
		<dc:creator>Teach children lying liars lie &#124; Edinburgh Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] discussion between two groups, one feminist and one pro-life: the feminists could argue for the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes with the specific example of a woman&#8217;s right to make her own medical decisions in pregnancy, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Grrrls Raising Girls &#171; StephiCakes</title>
		<link>http://tomatonation.com/culture-and-criticism/yes-you-are/comment-page-3/#comment-80814</link>
		<dc:creator>Grrrls Raising Girls &#171; StephiCakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] website called Tomato Nation.  Once upon a time, the author there wrote a fantastic essay called Yes, You Are.  Let&#8217;s look at an. &#8220;Yes. You are. You are a feminist. If you believe in, support, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 5 Things I&#8217;d Like Non-Feminists To Stop Saying &#171; Adorkable Undies</title>
		<link>http://tomatonation.com/culture-and-criticism/yes-you-are/comment-page-3/#comment-80704</link>
		<dc:creator>5 Things I&#8217;d Like Non-Feminists To Stop Saying &#171; Adorkable Undies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 14:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] feminist.  And once upon a time, I believed &#8211; as Sarah Bunting states in her legendary essay Yes You Are - that anyone who believed and supported equality of the sexes was also feminist, regardless of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jpatti</title>
		<link>http://tomatonation.com/culture-and-criticism/yes-you-are/comment-page-3/#comment-80524</link>
		<dc:creator>jpatti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, the whole POINT is not averages, but individuals.  SOME men are more empathetic than SOME women; SOME women are stronger than SOME men. 

My sister made all-stars every year she played Little League as she was better than ALL the guys on ALL the teams.  Since she grew up post-feminism, she was &quot;allowed&quot; to play Little League instead of being shunted off to softball.  

That most of her peers were more interested in makeup than baseball has nada to do with it.  She had the CHOICE because of feminism.

When my grandmother was born, women couldn&#039;t vote, let alone play baseball.  

Feminism is not saying all people of all genders are absolutely equal in ability, strength, characteristics.  It&#039;s saying gender is not the distinguishing factor, but those abilities, strengths and characteristics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, the whole POINT is not averages, but individuals.  SOME men are more empathetic than SOME women; SOME women are stronger than SOME men. </p>
<p>My sister made all-stars every year she played Little League as she was better than ALL the guys on ALL the teams.  Since she grew up post-feminism, she was &#034;allowed&#034; to play Little League instead of being shunted off to softball.  </p>
<p>That most of her peers were more interested in makeup than baseball has nada to do with it.  She had the CHOICE because of feminism.</p>
<p>When my grandmother was born, women couldn&#039;t vote, let alone play baseball.  </p>
<p>Feminism is not saying all people of all genders are absolutely equal in ability, strength, characteristics.  It&#039;s saying gender is not the distinguishing factor, but those abilities, strengths and characteristics.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming back to this essay after many more years to say - STILL relevant, still the best piece I have ever read on what feminism is and isn&#039;t; and sadly I had to link it AGAIN this morning after a very frustrating, disappointing and just plain infuriating conversation with my boyfriend last night. He actually had the balls to say &quot;oh I hope you aren&#039;t going to go all feminist on me&quot; after I commented on some reading I was doing (the blog &quot;Fit and Feminist&quot; among others). I could not answer for a moment; I think I stopped breathing. Then I let him know as gently as I could that I&#039;ve been a feminist all along, and if he has somehow managed not to notice that in a year and a half, then something&#039;s gone badly awry; either feminism does not mean what he thinks it means, I&#039;m not expressing it enough, or he&#039;s just plain not paying bloody attention. Some backpedaling on his part ensued, and some &quot;but you&#039;re not THAT kind of feminist, right?&quot;, and I stood firm. No. I am a feminist. If he has a problem with that then it&#039;s his loss, not mine. I&#039;m honestly not sure what&#039;s going to happen now but I&#039;m too old, too smart, and too tired of BS to cave into a guy&#039;s insecurities at this point!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming back to this essay after many more years to say &#8211; STILL relevant, still the best piece I have ever read on what feminism is and isn&#039;t; and sadly I had to link it AGAIN this morning after a very frustrating, disappointing and just plain infuriating conversation with my boyfriend last night. He actually had the balls to say &#034;oh I hope you aren&#039;t going to go all feminist on me&#034; after I commented on some reading I was doing (the blog &#034;Fit and Feminist&#034; among others). I could not answer for a moment; I think I stopped breathing. Then I let him know as gently as I could that I&#039;ve been a feminist all along, and if he has somehow managed not to notice that in a year and a half, then something&#039;s gone badly awry; either feminism does not mean what he thinks it means, I&#039;m not expressing it enough, or he&#039;s just plain not paying bloody attention. Some backpedaling on his part ensued, and some &#034;but you&#039;re not THAT kind of feminist, right?&#034;, and I stood firm. No. I am a feminist. If he has a problem with that then it&#039;s his loss, not mine. I&#039;m honestly not sure what&#039;s going to happen now but I&#039;m too old, too smart, and too tired of BS to cave into a guy&#039;s insecurities at this point!</p>
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		<title>By: YessiWrites About Feminism &#171; yessiwrites</title>
		<link>http://tomatonation.com/culture-and-criticism/yes-you-are/comment-page-3/#comment-80347</link>
		<dc:creator>YessiWrites About Feminism &#171; yessiwrites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yes, You Are [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Delusions of Gender by Cordelia Fine &#171; The Imperative Reader</title>
		<link>http://tomatonation.com/culture-and-criticism/yes-you-are/comment-page-3/#comment-79783</link>
		<dc:creator>Delusions of Gender by Cordelia Fine &#171; The Imperative Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Call: Read it. If you have any interest in gender studies, read it. If you are a feminist (and yes, you are), read it. If you have any interest in one of the strongest forces shaping our (American) society, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Technical Women &#38; Related Topics: Link Roundup #1</title>
		<link>http://tomatonation.com/culture-and-criticism/yes-you-are/comment-page-3/#comment-79357</link>
		<dc:creator>Technical Women &#38; Related Topics: Link Roundup #1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 22:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you a feminist? Yes, You Are. Or maybe not, because other &#8220;ists&#8221; and &#8220;isms&#8221;. Or, maybe even: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Linkadeedodah! &#171; Life of Di</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linkadeedodah! &#171; Life of Di</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 03:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 13. I like this post on what feminism is. [...]</description>
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