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	<title>Comments on: The Vine: November 25, 2009</title>
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		<title>By: CCG</title>
		<link>http://tomatonation.com/vine/the-vine-november-25-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-45113</link>
		<dc:creator>CCG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - try looking up cartoons by Plimpton.

Last poster - sounds a lot like part of the plot to the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweller (sp?), which is a book I read, but I never saw a live version of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &#8211; try looking up cartoons by Plimpton.</p>
<p>Last poster &#8211; sounds a lot like part of the plot to the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweller (sp?), which is a book I read, but I never saw a live version of.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://tomatonation.com/vine/the-vine-november-25-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-43091</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LLyzabeth and Erica.... I am so glad someone else remembers it being darker! I too don&#039;t remember Tumnus being green or so cartoon-y looking. I remember him being taller as well. I also remember Aslan looking much larger and more regal and lion-y than cartoon-y. I also don&#039;t remember the children looking like that esp. the older girl, I mean she&#039;s not very cute in the youtube clips! I am starting to wonder if I have memories of book illustrations that I am translating into movie scenes in my head. What&#039;s most vivid to me is the haircutting scene because I remember being so deeply saddened by it. Oh well, it certainly isn&#039;t showing up anywhere so maybe it was just me translating book illustrations into movie scenes in my head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LLyzabeth and Erica&#8230;. I am so glad someone else remembers it being darker! I too don&#039;t remember Tumnus being green or so cartoon-y looking. I remember him being taller as well. I also remember Aslan looking much larger and more regal and lion-y than cartoon-y. I also don&#039;t remember the children looking like that esp. the older girl, I mean she&#039;s not very cute in the youtube clips! I am starting to wonder if I have memories of book illustrations that I am translating into movie scenes in my head. What&#039;s most vivid to me is the haircutting scene because I remember being so deeply saddened by it. Oh well, it certainly isn&#039;t showing up anywhere so maybe it was just me translating book illustrations into movie scenes in my head.</p>
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		<title>By: tadpoledrain</title>
		<link>http://tomatonation.com/vine/the-vine-november-25-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-43090</link>
		<dc:creator>tadpoledrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elaine: &quot;Sylvester and the Magic Pebble&quot; -- AUGH! So scary!  My mom had to put that book away when I was little.  I mean, I&#039;m all for not sugarcoating stuff for kids, but seriously, what kind of kids&#039; story was that???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elaine: &#034;Sylvester and the Magic Pebble&#034; &#8212; AUGH! So scary!  My mom had to put that book away when I was little.  I mean, I&#039;m all for not sugarcoating stuff for kids, but seriously, what kind of kids&#039; story was that???</p>
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		<title>By: Your Local Friendly Film Archivist</title>
		<link>http://tomatonation.com/vine/the-vine-november-25-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-43084</link>
		<dc:creator>Your Local Friendly Film Archivist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff- animation expert and friend of mine didn&#039;t come up with anything off the top of his head but says that Big Cartoon Database (http://www.bcdb.com) is usually very helpful as is the forum (http://forum.bcdb.com/).

Also, for those of you firmly committed to identifying movies, the AFI movie database is awesome. It&#039;s only through 1974 as of now (a longtime work in progress), but you can search for keywords in their very detailed summaries, it&#039;s a helpful identification aid. And right now they&#039;re opening it up to non-member use, check it out!
http://www.afi.com/members/catalog/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff- animation expert and friend of mine didn&#039;t come up with anything off the top of his head but says that Big Cartoon Database (<a href="http://www.bcdb.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bcdb.com</a>) is usually very helpful as is the forum (<a href="http://forum.bcdb.com/" rel="nofollow">http://forum.bcdb.com/</a>).</p>
<p>Also, for those of you firmly committed to identifying movies, the AFI movie database is awesome. It&#039;s only through 1974 as of now (a longtime work in progress), but you can search for keywords in their very detailed summaries, it&#039;s a helpful identification aid. And right now they&#039;re opening it up to non-member use, check it out!<br />
<a href="http://www.afi.com/members/catalog/" rel="nofollow">http://www.afi.com/members/catalog/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember a darker version of TLTWATW too!
A lot of the screenshots look very similar to me - but Mr. Tumnus looks wrong to me (too cartoony and red and green), and same thing with the demons. Perhaps I just saw it young enough that I thought it was scarier!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a darker version of TLTWATW too!<br />
A lot of the screenshots look very similar to me &#8211; but Mr. Tumnus looks wrong to me (too cartoony and red and green), and same thing with the demons. Perhaps I just saw it young enough that I thought it was scarier!</p>
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		<title>By: LLyzabeth</title>
		<link>http://tomatonation.com/vine/the-vine-november-25-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-43003</link>
		<dc:creator>LLyzabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chiming in here on TLTWATW cartoon, I remember the one you&#039;re talking about too, and I looked at the screen caps that Natalie posted and the youtube clip of the haircutting scene that Michelle posted, and they&#039;re so close, but I really really think the one I remember was darker too. In the haircutting scene the little demon was...sharper? Darker? And moved much quicker? And instead of the background sounds of laughing and jeers I remember it being much quieter, the sounds of the scissors and some VERY creepy quiet snickers by the little demon. 

Does anybody else remember Edmund having dark hair in the cartoon? I&#039;ve looked at the other clips from the same version, like the one of him and the White Witch, and I could&#039;ve sworn the witch was prettier and Edmund had much darker hair.

But I&#039;ve looked around too and I don&#039;t find anything but the 1979 version either. While it&#039;s possible that I could&#039;ve remembered it being much scarier than it actually is...it couldn&#039;t be a mass hallucination from all of us could it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chiming in here on TLTWATW cartoon, I remember the one you&#039;re talking about too, and I looked at the screen caps that Natalie posted and the youtube clip of the haircutting scene that Michelle posted, and they&#039;re so close, but I really really think the one I remember was darker too. In the haircutting scene the little demon was&#8230;sharper? Darker? And moved much quicker? And instead of the background sounds of laughing and jeers I remember it being much quieter, the sounds of the scissors and some VERY creepy quiet snickers by the little demon. </p>
<p>Does anybody else remember Edmund having dark hair in the cartoon? I&#039;ve looked at the other clips from the same version, like the one of him and the White Witch, and I could&#039;ve sworn the witch was prettier and Edmund had much darker hair.</p>
<p>But I&#039;ve looked around too and I don&#039;t find anything but the 1979 version either. While it&#039;s possible that I could&#039;ve remembered it being much scarier than it actually is&#8230;it couldn&#039;t be a mass hallucination from all of us could it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://tomatonation.com/vine/the-vine-november-25-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-42993</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dancing_lemur, Thanks for the validation!  I was starting to think it was just me.  Maybe this is the reason for my amateur philosophy.  Anybody got any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dancing_lemur, Thanks for the validation!  I was starting to think it was just me.  Maybe this is the reason for my amateur philosophy.  Anybody got any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Kriesa</title>
		<link>http://tomatonation.com/vine/the-vine-november-25-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-42991</link>
		<dc:creator>Kriesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that it was an animated short on the Electric Company. I can&#039;t find it anywhere on line, though. Gaahh! I can totally hear the narrator&#039;s voice. This is going to bug me now. Thanks a lot, Jeff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that it was an animated short on the Electric Company. I can&#039;t find it anywhere on line, though. Gaahh! I can totally hear the narrator&#039;s voice. This is going to bug me now. Thanks a lot, Jeff.</p>
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		<title>By: Kriesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kriesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, I remember that cartoon, too. It was creepy. It was line drawings, but I dont think it was black and white, just very washed out color sort of sepia. It was definitely not Sylvester and the Magic Pebble. I also have the feeling that it was a sketch on a PBS educational show... but that&#039;s not much help. I probably saw it in the mid-tp-late &#039;70&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, I remember that cartoon, too. It was creepy. It was line drawings, but I dont think it was black and white, just very washed out color sort of sepia. It was definitely not Sylvester and the Magic Pebble. I also have the feeling that it was a sketch on a PBS educational show&#8230; but that&#039;s not much help. I probably saw it in the mid-tp-late &#039;70&#039;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Brady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle, I just want to say that I remember that Lion, Witch... cartoon so vividly--in fact, I was watching it as a kid when the lights went out in the house, completely freaking the hell out of me! As a result of that movie, I would also go digging behind the clothes in my closet, hoping there&#039;d be a door to Narnia there. Sigh. Glad I&#039;m not the only one who was affected so strongly by this movie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle, I just want to say that I remember that Lion, Witch&#8230; cartoon so vividly&#8211;in fact, I was watching it as a kid when the lights went out in the house, completely freaking the hell out of me! As a result of that movie, I would also go digging behind the clothes in my closet, hoping there&#039;d be a door to Narnia there. Sigh. Glad I&#039;m not the only one who was affected so strongly by this movie!</p>
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