Yes We KECHONK!
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November 3, 2010
We ran upstairs right before eleven so we wouldn’t miss the West Coast returns, but instead of telling us who won what state, CNN just blurted it out: Obama is our next president. It took a second, but then, bedlam.
Right now, two hours later, I can still hear intermittent honking and cheering outside. Total strangers gave me thumbs-ups and congrats as I walked home. I can’t describe the feeling; I can’t believe it’s true. I barely remember what it’s like to feel like the country’s leadership cares about me or anything I believe in, or to think the guy I voted for isn’t just the lesser of two evils.
And President-Elect Obama immediately repaid my faith by 1) beginning his speech precisely on time, 2) thanking his supporters and giving the voters the credit without sounding obsequious or fake, and 3) immediately saying that this is just the first of many steps we all need to take together…”this is not over,” in effect. That speech, like so many of his speeches, is rhetorically a lot harder to do than it might seem, never mind convincingly, and he did it.
Also awesome: the crowds totally bugging out at the White House, Frank Lautenberg running for Senate in Jersey and winning despite being old enough to remember when the Senate had an outhouse, and Joe Biden’s mom. And Joe Biden. And Prop 8 going down (fingers crossed!). And, when it really counted, America. Good job, guys.
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I couldn’t believe the celebrating I have witnessed. Bonus: I live in VIRGINIA!!! WOOOHOOOOOOO
I can’t believe Prop 8 passed. Can someone explain that to me too?
My partner and I live in Ohio, which already had an anti-gay marriage amendment anyway, but still…We bought rings yesterday because there was a jeweler going out of business and they had great prices. Tomorrow we fork over a not small amount of money to our lawyer and sign all the legal paperwork to protect each other as much as possible. It all feels like empty gestures now.
I got the news from Jon Stewart last night, which was the cherry on top of the ice cream sundae of AWESOME.
I love you, America.
(please, California, pull out a prop-8 miracle.)
Our town looked pretty good in HD last night. First IL prez since Grant, but I trust this new guy will perform better.
Any chance of This Is Not Over being resurrected to continue the activism Obama is calling for?
Being in Europe, I heard the news at 5 A.M. this morning and watched Obama’s speech via stream on MSNBC’s website. (Yeah, I cried.)
A bunch of us expats are getting together tonight to celebrate. It would be a perfect day if the state proposals banning same-sex marriage hadn’t passed. :(
Oh, but yeah, Florida gets no props on Prop 2. Straight-up dickwaddery.
Well, Sars, at least the soc cons can pretend that GLBTI persons don’t exist if they don’t recognize them.
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I know I posted this at Linda’s site as well, but I really believe this is what started the whole thing for me. I listened to this speech again around 8pm last night and sat with the text of this speech all night long. I don’t believe President-Elect Obama (wheee!!!) can lash the moon to a pair of unicorns and gallop through the universe. I don’t believe that he can turn magic beans into healthcare for all. Hell, I don’t even believe that he can pull a quarter out of my ear to jumpstart a nose-diving economy.
What I do believe, though, is that he is thoughtful, smart, committed and savvy.
That he surrounds himself with people whose strengths counter his weaknesses.
That he sees this country as one with people who share more similarities than differences with their neighbors, even if those neighbors live 5 states away.
That ‘smart’ is NOT a disease.
That even though some things are apparently not to be in 2008 (I’m looking at YOU, California), his leadership can provide the support to keep the pressure on for moving forward for all Americans.
That holding up our disagreements to sunlight disinfects them and allows us to discuss them with the rancor removed.
That even if he doesn’t have all the answers, he’s willing to lead the charge so that we can all work together toward finding those answers.
This is why the speech in Philadelphia in March 2008 sold me on this man. This is when I knew that I would not vote for Hillary even though I vowed to do so even before she officially announced oh so many, many, many months ago. I wanted someone to ignite the fire in us all, no matter if we considered ourselves Democrat or Republican, Independent or Libertarian. I’m ready now to make sacrifices (really, I am) and get started.
If only I were a smart, white, 20-something young woman with ideas instead of a smart, white 40-something goddess with ideas…I would move to DC and BEGIN my career there. C’mon, young people!!! Do it for me!!
I live in Arizona and Prop 102 is the one with the craptastic “marriage is one man, one woman” verbage. Said verbage is now a part of the STATE CONSTITUTION. Just…there are no words. I am so very upset I can’t share in the joy you all have as fully as I would like. I have too many friends that are now second-class citizens to enjoy the current election.
One thing that is worth at least thinking about, I guess, is that some of the pundits predicted this would happen given the big push in minority voting. I guess the thinking is that the people that voted for the first time b/c of Obama (blacks and latinos) are the ones that view the “traditional” nuclear family as best and thus don’t support gay marriage. If that is true than I am so very depressed. To finally feel like you have hope and then turn around and immediately oppress another minority is simply sickening.
Of course, it could just be the back asswards old west style thinking that rules the state of AZ. We’re talking about the state that was the very LAST to declare a Martin Luther King Jr. day. Oh, and the one that just re-elected the most bigoted sheriff for the city of Phoenix for a rockin’ 5th term. I can’t wait for the immigration sweeps to start again.
ARGH!!! Get your religion out of my government!! If we have laws that say you can’t descriminate against gays then why are we passing constitutional amendments that do exactly that?!
I need a drink and its only 8am. Sigh.
I couldn’t go to an election party last night because I was so nervous…and as states started reporting in the smile on my face just grew and grew. It’s nights/days like this one where I am so very happy to be an american, and I am so proud that we didn’t screw this one up. It’s been a long 8 years.
I’m furious about props 2/8. I don’t get how some people can be narrow-minded.
I am so proud to be American this morning, it’s unreal. And it’s been far too long since I’ve had that feeling and had it as a result of a presidential election. I am just thrilled and in awe and overjoyed and a bunch of other words I can’t think of right now since I was up way too late watching the returns and the joy that spread last night.
And Obama’s speech? THAT is how a president sounds. After 8 long years of listening to Bush trying to string sentences together I’d almost forgotten how a president should really sound.
Did anyone else think McCain looked more relaxed than he has in months?
I was on ABC when they called it – the announcer said “In about 10 seconds, polls will close on the west coast, and we will have early predictions for those states.” Then there was a funny little pause, and then he continued, “the west coast polls are now closed. We are predicting that Senator Obama has won the state of California, and is now the next president of the United States.”
It was funny.
So proud of our country, and so ashamed of my state, California. The likely passage of Prop 8 makes me incredibly sad for all of my friends who have gotten married over the past few months. Truly shameful.
Sobbing last night, just the happiest tears ever. I feel like my daughter was given a gift last night – a good president and hope for the future. Words can’t express how I feel today, like a weight has been lifted!
What was most amazing to me, out of all the amazing things that happened in this election, was that my dad, a lifelong Republican, voted for Obama. When he told me I thought he was pulling my leg at first. That, to me, is a very personal example of just how much this country has changed, and wants change.
I was confused at first as to why people here seemed upset that Prop 2 passed, until I realized that you’re referring to Prop 2 in FLORIDA banning gay marriage (I’m Christian, and I’m completely disgusted that my faith has been used to back these kinds of measures – banning gay marriage is discrimination, pure and simple).
I’m actually really happy that Prop 2 in CALIFORNIA passed – that bill was backed by the Humane Society of the US and makes life just a bit easier for animals on factory farms: Proposition 2 ends the practice of confining certain animals raised for food in crates and cages so small the animals can barely move. Prop 2 requires that factory farms provide enough space for animals to stand up, turn around and extend their limbs. It applies to breeding pigs, egg laying hens and veal calves.
I’m not opposed to eating meat, but I’m horrified at the conditions in which most factory farm animals live. This is at least a step in the right direction.
Oh, and GOBAMA!
Maybe someone could explain to me what the objection is, without using euphemisms..
I got nothing. Hey Norcal- I’ve got a spare bedroom and a couch in Massachusetts, for wedding parties and whatnot.
With all the things I’m disappointed about- prop 8, Ted Stevens, that evil McCathyesque woman from MN, I STILL am more proud of my country than I have ever been.
Yeah, we’re not perfect. We’ve got some stuff to work on. But Hope beat out Fear last night, and homophobia may have one a battle, but they’re screaming into the wind.
An absolutely historic night. YES WE CAN!
Self-important Minnesota details: The margin in the Franken/Coleman race is about 600 votes out of 2.9 million cast, with Coleman ahead, so there will be a recount. It’ll take a while – our Secretary of State estimates “mid-November.” The percentage is 42% each – independent Dean Barkley made quite a dent.
Keith Ellison and Linda Clark won handily – no surprises there. Unfortunately, so did Michele Bachmann.
The apparent victory of California’s Prop 8 is the splash of ice-cold water in the face of an otherwise joyful morning.
My husband is a naturalized American who grew up in London and who has lived all over the world. Our phone rang off the hook last night after 8pm Pacific time–Ireland calling, Israel calling, London calling (of course), China calling, all to say ‘Good on ya’ to hubby and (by proxy) all of America.
One of our daughters is attending grad school in NYC, and she stepped out of the noisy bar in which she was celebrating to phone us and give us a taste of the jubilation in the streets in the home of Tomato Nation. Nice touch on her part, nice work Nation!
@F. McGee: I and everyone I know (as a friend) voted against Prop 2. I’m totally pissed that I can’t just relax and enjoy Obama’s win because of that stupid thing. I just don’t understand people.
I can’t wait until the day when we view these stupid amendments the way we currently view “separate but equal,” i.e. outdated, absurd, and patently unfair.
“I barely remember what it’s like to feel like the country’s leadership cares about me or anything I believe in…”
Us either (writes a Brit)… I’m sharing your joy, and just hoping it lasts and that the change we’re ALL hoping for comes true.
Because, not to rain on your parade, but we thought the same when Blair got in, and now we have zilch left in terms of civil liberties, and a lot of other stuff’s gone to hell as well.
Erin Killey’s got it right, above – now is the time to feel involved, and to stay involved – now is not the time to hand over to anyone and let the world continue its present slide into War Without End, where civil liberties are something only “terrorists” ask for….
‘Kay, that came out more downer than I’d planned – anyway I’d be whining wayyy more if McCain’d got in, so here’s to today’s victory, and tomorrow, the hard work starts.
I’m in tears all over again. Must stop reading blogs until I can get my shizzle together over here!
@Sars: I have a couple different thoughts on this, which only slightly ameliorate my major-league anger about 2,8, and that AR bullshit. From personal experience, I think some people older than Gen X & Y just don’t understand that homosexuality is just like heterosexuality. Case in point: my liberal, rabidly pro-choice, *medical doctor* of a father who kept asking me if my friend K “was still gay.” As though it was a phase, like being a Goth in high school. He sort of got it when I asked him when exactly he had chosen to be straight, but homosexuality still kind of grosses him out. While this pisses me off to no end, the (kind of) good news is that eventually these older people will die, and hopefully the more tolerant younger generations will overturn this shit.
The rest I honestly think comes down to bigotry and the deep-seated need some people feel to declare themselves better than some other group. I partly see this as people taking out their lingering racist/sexist/homophobic rage on the only remaining “societally acceptable” target, especially with a black (yay!) president and the feelings of disenfranchisement and powerlessness the economic crisis has engendered.
Just some thoughts that don’t involve my karmic hopes for the homophobes. Or punchings.
First the Phillies, and now this. An embarrassment of riches. I feel like I lost my mind about a month ago and this is all the lovely dream I’m having in the psych ward.
DO NOT WAKE ME UP.
On Prop. 8 — as of 9:45 this morning, there were still approximately 3 million absentee and provisional ballots to be counted. It’s not over ’til it’s over.
I was at a packed gay sports bar on U Street in D.C. last night. I’ve never had such an exhillarating time watching election results — nothing but cheering and chanting and jumping for joy. And then emerging on the street after Obama’s speech, it was like Mardi Gras (without the beads or flashing of private parts). Strangers were just walking up to each other on the street and hugging.
However frustrated I am at some things maybe not coming out how I’d like, it’s just so wonderful to have evidence that my faith in my country has not been misplaced.
@Sars: Re “Maybe someone could explain…”
My husband says (and I think he’s right) that those pushing for Yes on 8 successfully preyed on the fears of people who don’t have whatever it is they need to think about it independently and rationally.
What really killed me this morning was a news quote from one of the Yes on 8 jerks saying something like, “This isn’t about discrimination. We love all our brothers and sisters. This is just about the definition of the term marriage.” (Paraphrased slightly, but keywords accurate.) If it’s not about discrimination, then what is it about? Separate but equal is suddenly okay?
It makes me want to cry.
I fell asleep before 11, so I missed the official call, but I honestly wasn’t even nervous. At this point, I knew Obama had it. It wasn’t like ’04 when it was too close to call.
But I’m too pissed off over Prop 8 and its ilk either passing or coming way too close to really enjoy having a Democrat in the White House again.
I have no plans to resurrect This Is Not Over as a separate entity. The domain expired last week; you’re free to grab it if you like, but though I wish I had the time to devote to doing TINO properly, I simply don’t right now.
Joe Biden’s mom!!! :-D
My husband and I went to a comedy show, not thinking we would be out late enough to miss the call (I mean, come on, John Pinette for free?? I’m there). At 10:30pm, I checked returns on my XM radio, and they said they’d have more state results at the top of the hour. So, I get home at around 11pm, put my stuff down, turn on Comedy Central, and my phone buzzes with a text about President Obama. I immediately turned to CNN, and McCain was conceding. It was like a whirlwind. I knew it would be faster than we’re used to, but daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.
I prefer to think that TINO went out to buy beer.
My husband turned to me last night and said “that little spark you’re feeling? The one you’re not quite sure what it is but you vaguely remember feeling it before? That’s HOPE. Just in case you were wondering. I just figured it out myself.”
I, by turns, kept giggling and weeping in releif and joy until about 3 am. And yet, this morning there is a spring in my step and joy in my heart. Hope, indeed.
I missed the actual calling of the race last night, but I could see it coming. Obama’s lead was high enough before the west coast polls that I said to myself, “Well, there’s no way he’s losing any of the Pacific coast states. That’ll be enough electoral votes right there.” I changed the channel, and by the time I switched back, it was done. Ah well. I get the feeling there’s still plenty of history in the making to come.
Like everyone else from Florida who’s weighed in on Amendment 2 (we actually don’t do Propositions here), it’s left a sour taste in my mouth on what is otherwise a great day. The laws were changed in Florida a few years ago to require a higher percentage of voter approval before the state constitution could be amended, so I held out hope that this one wouldn’t reach the 60% threshold. It got 62%. I am at a loss for words to explain it.
@Krissa: Word. McCain looked so ready to make that concession speech. Not that I think he wanted to, of course, but he was prepared and he seemed relaxed.
*sigh* Happy for the country, sad to be a Californian today (and usually I love being a Golden State native & resident).
I believe Prop 8 passed because of the deceptive ad campaigns. They made it all OH GOD WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN? ‘Cause you know it’s highly traumatic for children to be exposed to teh gays, or even the thought they exist and deserve equal rights.
I think that’s embodied in an interaction I had with a co-worker yesterday. She was proud because she voted, and mentioned she voted no on 8 because she heard a lesbian on the radio discussing her relationship and “I liked her.” Then the discussion turned to the Prop 8 supporters’ claims that gay marriage would be taught in schools. She became very adamant that she would pull her children out of any school that taught gay marriage.
How many California voters just didn’t happen to hear a gay person on the radio they “liked”? Uh, that makes me sad too, that people are so easily swayed by such things.
@F.McGee: I dont; even know you, but your marriage means something to me!
I felt kinda silly and thought I migh be weird for feeling so patriotic and proud of my country after last night. But then I came here and saw that I am not alone at all; merely experiencing the same joy as so vey many others! I have never ever done the MB {hugs} crap, but dammit – I just want to hug everybody right now! This is the first step in tearing down the stereotypes that exist about Americans being a bunch of Bush-ian type ignorant antiquated narrow minded …. you get the picture. Finally, we can show the world that we chose a leader to reflect ALL of us!
As for Prop 8 (and similar measures in other states) : That remains our shame. I actually had the opportunity to engage in open discussion of the subject with a large group of diverse individuals. What saddens me is that so many people who are against marriage rights for everybody are labouring under the delusions that marriage is a religious thing. Until we realise that it is a LEGAL issue; that in 2008 civil rights are still being denied to a group of people based on a biological factor; we will never make progress. I am deeply saddened by this. I am saddened that so many people are still unable to think intelligently about such an important issue, or to take the time to really understand what it is all about. If you don’t need an attorney to confirm your chosen mate’s rights then why should anyone else?
That said, I am still helping my friends to plan their big beautiful lesbian wedding in Sonoma valley next summer and I cannot wait to celebrate their union! Prop 8 be damned!
Even if Prop. 8 passes, we must remember that weddings start in Connecticut soon. And Democrats now control the NY State Senate, opening the door to at least a chance for the legislative approval of same-sex marriages in that state. And New Jersey isn’t far behind. And I still hold out hope for my beloved Rhode Island.
A loss in California will be a huge setback for the movement for marriage equality, but it’s not the end of the fight. It’s not easy; it’s never going to be easy — but we will get there.
@LTG It was like happy rioting in the streets in DC last night. Really amazing. In the 9 years I’ve been here, I’ve never seen anything like it. U Street was out of control. In that good way.
@Val: Your point about making a change to the state’s constitution – dead on. I believe that Section 1 of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution affords all rights to all people. How a state can amend its constitution to violate the US Constitution – I don’t get it. But then, I do know that the interpretation of this Amendment is part of the hoopla. But I believe that this US Amendment says it all: as Americans we all have the same starting point in terms of rights. It’s the reason I’ve always been against the Equal Rights Amendment. Why call out a specific group when the Amendment should protect everyone equally anyway?
IMHO, Section 1 of the 14th Amendment should be reworded in plain English as follows:
“Listen up. Live-birthing Mammal, born or living in these United States? Check. Air-breathing bipedal homo sapien? Check. Redundancy so that there’s no confusion? Check. All of you have exactly the same rights, privileges, and guarantees as every other American. No takebacks. ‘Separate’ is NOT ‘Equal,’ you tools. Thank you.” (The Thank You is because we’re a benevolent and gracious people even when we’re castigating others.)
Oversimplification of the issue…yeah, okay, it is. But I just get so steamed that some people need a roadmap to decency!
It’s strange to hear of places where there is celebration in the streets. I wish I could see something like that. Here in Texas (at least in the part that is not Dallas/Austin/Houston), the mood is slightly cranky. There has been a bit of grumbling, and only one person has had a hateful outburst (my Romanian-immigrant coworker swears that Obama is a COMMUNIST! And he REFUSES TO LIVE UNDER COMMUNIST REGIME AGAIN! Among other unsavory bits of ranting), but the margin of victory seems to be great enough to quell the complaining that I expected.
Yay.
@Joe R: He’s out getting Chinese food, actually. With the Chase’s cat.
I liked McCain’s concession speech; he did seem pretty done with the whole thing, and I thought he was very classy last night. You know who’s TOTALLY done with the whole thing? Todd Palin. Looked like he ate a bug; could not WAIT to go back to Alaska and disappear. (Not that I think we’ve seen the last of Sarahcuda…sigh.)
My primary emotion when it comes to McCain is still deep disappointment. He had all the tools to be kind of awesome, and then he grabbed his ankles for party leadership. I salute his service to the country and I don’t think he’s a bad man, but he did turn out to be a pussy in a lot of ways, and I don’t expect better from most politicians, but from him, I did.
re: Jersey allowing gay marriage — that wouldn’t surprise me. Jersey is weird as blue states go; it’s actually closer to red than you’d think in some ways, and you do have some old-school bigots around, but mostly it’s a fiscal thing. They’d outlaw STRAIGHT marriage if they thought it would lower their property taxes. Heh. So, it’ll probably go through. “What does gay people getting married cost me on April 15th? …Nothing? Sweet, rings for everyone.”
Another joyful yet also heartbroken CA resident checking in. It was totally bizarre to be hunkered down, ready for a long night of returns – and then at 8pm, hear the presidential race called for President-Elect Obama!
I am so saddened over Prop 8, and I do hold out hope that the absentee ballots may help tip it. But I’m nervous and ashamed of so many of my fellow CA residents. And not thrilled with AR, AZ and FL on that front either!
This truly isn’t over. And I was glad to hear Obama’s speech talk about us all getting involved.
…Actually, now that I think about it, maybe that’s how to lobby against these anti-gay-marriage initiatives: get a big coalition of wedding-industry people together and couch it as an economic-health issue. Not that I’m not grossed out by some of that sector’s highway-robbery tactics, but why not use it for good and talk about it as an industry-slowdown problem? Florists, bakers, everyone can just be like, “I got commercial rent to pay, bitches. A rising Lohan/Ronson-wedding tide lifts all boats.”
@Jules – Thanks! I know people here tend to support equality – which sounds so silly, because, duh – but… how did this happen? In Florida, every single demographic went for Amendment 2 EXCEPT white 18-29 year olds. All of them.
@Sars – I have no answer for you there. Some people are bigots. I had students showing up to class in t-shirts saying “Man + Woman = Love.” LOVE, now?! A highly educated and highly respected person on our faculty openly voted for it. I can’t speak to these people.
I just hate it that I can’t be happy today! I called my mom sobbing and she’s going to help me figure out how my partner and I can get rights without a marriage certificate but that’s not what we’re supposed to be DOING today.
I think we have to hope Obama and his Supreme Court nominees (Obama and the Supremes!) will fix this. When I was at the gym a really sweet older gentleman and I were talking about this, and he said, “Well, remember, there’s never anything false about hope.” I cried. At the gym.
was at the Grant Park rally last night. Words can not describe. I am a crying hopeful MESS. unbelievable.
Re: Prop 8…
I agree with what’s been said above, but I also have to put some of it at the feet of SF Douchebag….er…Mayor Gavin Newsom after his speech following the CA Supreme Court decision back in May. The Yes on 8 people had some very effective ad campaigners, and managed to pull out the very smarmiest, holier-than-thou, jackassiest bits of that speech that they could find. “It’s gonna happen, whether you like it or not.”
(Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrw31ouqNis, from 4:01 to 4:25 especially; prior to that, it’s actually quite respectful, but we all know how negative campaigning works).
Well, gee, Mayor Newsom, congratulations for handing your opponents a huge stick with which to beat your ass later on.
I voted no, for the record–leaving aside the fact that I have a ton of gay friends, the discriminatory nature of the whole thing just cheeses me right off. But, trying to look at it objectively, if I *had* been on the fence about it, I really do think that the Yes on 8 people managed a better ad campaign, thanks to that crap from Newsom, among other things, and I’d have been swayed in their direction.
I am happy about the turnout of the Presidential election but like so many others, am very disappointed and sad to call myself a Californian.
I do hope there is a legal avenue for the State Supreme Court to once again knock down and reverse Prop 8’s discrimination. It was done once before with Prop 22 (in 2000 when the marriage issue first came to CA voters), although that proposition did not include amending our state constitution. I would like to think that our government, even with a Republican governor, will not allow this kind of blatant discrimination. It is not allowed in the workplace, in the healthcare industry, in determining who gets housing and should not be allowed in regards to marriage.
Another thing I found interesting was that quite a few people in minority groups were for Prop 8. These are people that in history, would not have been allowed to marry outside their race. It floors me that people part of a group that was once discriminated against are now willing to discriminate against others.
Although it wasn’t an actual selling point, the whole increase in sales tax/wedding industry revenues was actually in the voter’s pamphlet this year, briefly, as part of the fiscal impact summary. So was the part where, in the long run, the measure would likely have zero fiscal impact on the state budget or your taxes.
Sadly, it’s hard to come back from ads that are simply making things up to scare people. “Your church will lose its tax-free status” and “our children will be required to be taught gay marriage in schools and you will have NO CHOICE about it” were the big ad pushes, both completely untrue of course.
Count me as one of the California residents whose joy is muted today because of Prop 8. I thought we were better than this. My only hope on this matter came from NPR this morning – apparently, the first couple that got married in Los Angeles after the initial judgement legalized gay marriage has a lawsuit cooking, saying that Prop 8 itself is unconstitutional. So even if it does pass in the end, as it looks likely to, perhaps the amendment itself would be struck down.
Lastly – GOBAMA! Thanks for all the stories of celebration. I live in Orange County, so none of that around here, fo’ sho’. I don’t think it felt real to me until I saw on CNN this morning the video of celebrations happening around the world! :)
The “best” argument I’ve heard about banning gay marriage is that they don’t believe marriage should be agoverned *at all.*
Which…OK…? But it is. So what now?