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O mighty Sars, wise in the ways of weirdo cats;

My boyfriend is fostering, and thinking about adopting, a 9-year-old female cat, Ava.Ava was at first grumpy and grouchy, but after about 6 weeks seems to have adjusted well — she follows my boyfriend around and says hello when he comes home.

But even when following him around, she pretends she isn’t — it is obvious that she needs him and his attention, but doesn’t want to admit it.She also seems completely unschooled in how to give physical affection.She will awkwardly jump onto my boyfriend’s lap, realize that balancing on someone’s legs is hard, and then, instead of lying down, she will jump/fall off.She does seem more comfortable with me, but still won’t settle down in my lap.

We don’t know Ava’s history, but while she is quiet and well-behaved, and purrs enough that we are sure she is happy, she doesn’t seem to have been loved very much.My intuition is that this is not a personality issue, but rather one of no experience — she doesn’t know how to snuggle with people.

Now the questions, for you and your readers — can we train Ava to be more comfortable giving affection, especially physical affection?Is there some kind of hugging therapy for cats who don’t know how to snuggle?Are there body language issues we need to be aware of?

My boyfriend would love a cat he can cuddle with, rather than one who pathetically needs him but doesn’t engage in much physical contact.If there is any way to get Ava to happily sit in his lap while he reads, he’d be over the moon.

Thanks,

I’ve only had dogs; this is all new to me

Dear Dogs,

Your boyfriend could ask his vet for a recommendation — “exercises” or things he could do at home, or a cat behaviorist he could call to work on these things.Ava will let you know if she’s not into it, belieeeeeve me (lowered, switching tail; flattened ears; the usual), but you can work on acclimating even feral cats to human touch, and Ava isn’t feral; she’s just new to the whole lap-cat thing.

But your BF should keep in mind also that cats do have distinct personalities, and not all of them like lap time or cuddles.Hobey is a lot like Ava — likes to be close to me, does not care to be on me.Next to me on the couch is fine for him; he never gets onto my lap, and by now I know that moving him thereto is futile.He’ll wait for me to lift my hands and then jump right down.

Which is fine, because there’s never any extra room in my lap anyway: Joe would surgically attach himself to me if he had the means, because he’s needy.Every cat is different, and you can’t guarantee that any cat you get, even as a kitten, will become a postcardly ball of lap fuzz.

I’d call the vet to seeif she can offer any tips, and from there, just give Ava time.

Dear Sars,

I have a weird etiquette sort of question I’m not sure there’s a solution to, but maybe you and the readers could help me out.

About six months ago, I was hit by a car while riding my bike to work. It wasn’t a bad accident, just a broken collarbone and some cuts and bruises (like, really big bruises. Wow.) but I have no memory of the accident or the immediate aftermath. I do have hazy recollections of waking up on the ground, thinking I was dreaming, with a woman next to me telling me I had been hit by a car but was going to be okay. Then nothing until I was already in the ambulance on my way to the hospital.

A few days after I was discharged, I was digging through the bag of my stuff they’d sent home with me, cracked helmet, clothes, etc., and I found a woman’s brown corduroy jacket. Clearly, she’d covered me with her coat while waiting for help to arrive, and it had gone with me to the hospital.

This woman was not the person who hit me, but the police report lists no witnesses to the accident, and I believe the officer who took the report arrived on the scene after the paramedics had already loaded me up. In other words, I have no idea who this woman is, or how to get her coat back to her.

In the meantime, it’s hanging in my closet as a periodic reminder of this stranger’s kindness but also that there doesn’t seem to be a way to repay it. I can certainly get in touch with the police department to see if they still have her info, but I have a suspicion that if it’s not in the report, the police will have no record of it.

My question in this case is, what do I do with the coat? I’ve considered donating it to charity, but that seems rude somehow. Wearing it (it’s not my size, so that’s not really a possibility anyway) feels tacky, selling it obviously unethical. I’m very, very grateful to this woman for stopping to help me out while I was lying unconscious in the street and wish I could thank her for it. However, in the event that I can’t, keeping the coat as some sort of “souvenir” feels weird — the accident wasn’t all that traumatic, so it’s not like I hate being reminded of it, but neither do I see me taking out the coat and telling my grandchildren about this particular momentous occasion in my history (after all, if it’s the worst thing that happens in our lives, my husband and I will be really lucky).

So, any thoughts? Should I give it a little more time, advertise that I’m looking for this woman on Craigslist or something and see what happens? Donate it to the Goodwill? Leave it hanging in my closet indefinitely? Or is there something I haven’t thought of?

I Think I Told The Paramedics That The President Was “Fuckin’ Bush”

Dear I Told Them The Same Thing — And They Didn’t Even Ask Me,

Phone up the police precinct and ask if they got a name or any witness information about the woman; it sounds like they didn’t, and it could take some time for them to address the request (i.e. you may have to sit on hold, or make the call a few times), but it’s worth a try.

Failing that, post everything you just told me on Craigslist in the Missed Connections section and see what turns up.You never know, maybe she or a friend of hers reads TN and she’ll surface that way — it happens on occasion.

Re-post the ad a few times to give it some time to penetrate; if you haven’t gotten any nibbles after a month, and the cops can’t tell you anything, donate the coat to Goodwill.You’ll have done everything you can do, and if she cared that much about it, she’d have tracked you down herself.

Dear Sars —

I recently got a Facebook friend request from a guy I went to college with 30+ years ago.He’s come through some rough times, apparently, and is reconnecting with several old friends (which I know because he’s contacted mutual acquaintances on Facebook).I still feel close to some of those people, though our lives have diverged and we rarely see (or even e-mail) each other these days.His e-mail to me referenced a play we had both been involved in.What bothers me is that I can’t decide whether to respond to the e-mail or not.

I’ve tried ignoring it, but seem to have some unfinished business with him, which is:after the cast party for the play, I helped him transport a passed-out friend to his house, and after the friend was safely ensconced on his couch, he proceeded to rape me — if “not taking no for an answer” is rape — which it is.He was much bigger and stronger, but at no time in the process did I fear for my safety.It just became clear to me that I wasn’t going to get out of there until we had sex.I hate drama and will do just about anything to avoid a scene.So after a prolonged wrestling match I bowed to the inevitable…

…and as far as I can recall, we never spoke again.I walked home, and do remember the next day he brought me an earring I’d left at his house, but we never talked about what happened.

And, actually, I didn’t experience it as a huge trauma.Never felt the need to seek therapy for it, confront him about it, etc.Also, I have never told anyone about the experience, so that’s a bit of a red flag, neh?(And, perhaps this is related, in the sense that if I’d dealt with it then I wouldn’t have been so vulnerable later, but I was date-raped five years later, which was traumatic, had long-term repercussions, and for which I did seek therapy — but at this point I don’t recall ever discussing the first experience with my therapist.It’s kinda like, compared to the second rape, the first was no big deal, and compared to the horrific experiences of some women, even my second rape was nothing to make a fuss about…)

So, yeah, this has brought up my unresolved feelings about, not the rape so much, but my tendency to minimize, to make nice, to shoulder all the responsibility for my own problems because I prefer that to whining that someone else let me down.Perhaps it’s time to resume therapy, but I’d really rather spend the money on other things.I’m afraid this is just part of my personality that is not going to change, so what’s the point…

But back to the question of my response to the e-mail.I’m not at ease with my decision to ignore it, but I don’t know what I do want to do.I do think it’s important to make peace, but in an unacknowledged conflict that was over 30+ years ago?This whole issue is reminding me of a Vine I can’t seem to find — someone asked about contacting a guy who’d been interested in her and whom she’d blown off, in order to mend fences, feel less guilty about the way she’d acted, etc., but was concerned the ex would interpret the contact as an attempt to re-establish the relationship.Your advice was to let it lie — that the personal payoff of guilt relief wasn’t worth the potential pain it could cause the other person.

So it’s not quite the same thing; he’s contacted me, I don’t want to re-establish anything, but I can envision meeting him at some function now that he’s socializing in the area, and that would be much more awkward than letting him know via e-mail that yes, I do remember him, but not fondly.By not responding, am I continuing to minimize what was possibly a more traumatic experience than I’ve previously acknowledged to myself, am I abdicating my responsibility to make sure he’s aware that what he did was wrong, or is it a mature choice to leave behind an experience that has nothing to do with my current life?

I Remember What You Did That Summer

Dear Summer,

I don’t see you having a “responsibility” to do anything but what makes you comfortable…but the idea of causing awkwardness with your decision makes you un-comfortable.So I have to ask: awkwardness for whom?If you run into the guy at some future time and you didn’t friend him on Facebook, who’s it awkward for?

If it’s awkward for you, you can handle it; just excuse yourself from whatever small-talk situation it is as soon as you gracefully can, and go speak with someone else.If it’s awkward for him, well, he can handle it to, and that’s his committee, not yours.It’s awkwardness; it never killed anybody and it’s over in five minutes.And if he takes from that that you’re not interested in being his friend, well, that’s the truth of it and you don’t owe him any different.

As far as your minimizing the trauma itself…I don’t really know what to tell you.Maybe it brought up horrible, ugly feelings that you didn’t share in this letter, and yeah, maybe you should have mentioned the assault to your previous therapist, but you seem more irritated than depressed or traumatized, at least to me, and while it’s possible that you’re in denial about its effect on you, the salient point is that you think “it’s important to make peace.”Why?You were perfectly happy without this guy in yourlife, knowing anything about him, etc. — why do you have to make peace?

Why would you feel obligated to put this guy at ease even if he hadn’t raped you?You don’t know him, really.You were perfectly happy not knowing him, or anything about his life.You aren’t friends; you never were.It’s not up to you to get him through this rough patch with the belief that he’s got a friend in you — he doesn’t.He’s got himself to thank for that.Too bad, so sad.

Not everyone has to be friends, or feel comfortable; it would be nice, but that’s not how life goes, and friendships and comfort should not consistently come before your own peace of mind.If what you want from the situation is to not friend him and to not deal with him, then do that; you don’t owe him, or anyone else, an explanation.You don’t have to make nice to everyone; you don’t have to get closure on every event in your life just because popular culture tells you do; you don’t have to confront the guy if you’ve already moved on.For that matter, you don’t have to ignore the friend request on my say-so.

My point: chuck out “should.”Look at “want.”See if there’s a middle way between the two things, and if there isn’t, don’t automatically pick “should.”But I’d ignore the friend request, think about maybe taking a couple of counseling sessions or journaling just to check in with yourself, and in a few weeks this will most likely have receded back to the non-issue you considered it before –and if it hasn’t, you can deal with it then.

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  • La BellaDonna says:

    Duvetgirl, I’m so sorry about your neurotic kitty! Have you tried getting a companion cat for her in the meantime? It wouldn’t replace her sister, but maybe she needs another cat for company? It’s worked really well for my (needy, clingy) cat. He’s still needy and clingy, but he’s less lonely.
    Dogs, I do agree with Syph’s suggestion; sometimes a companion cat makes it easier for an adoptee to acclimate. It’s also been my experience that most cats are happier with a same-species companion animal. While Ignorant Bystander is absolutely right about dogs being pack animals, and cats not being dogs, I’ve spent decades doing Jane Goodall with urban domestic/feral felines. Although most cats are solitary hunters, I HAVE watched cats hunt in pairs and trios; I have also observed the tendency of cats to form colonies on their own, in both urban and agricultural (barn cats, especially) areas; I’ve also watched the structural interaction domestically with a large in-house cat colony. Cats aren’t dogs; but they’re not as solitary, nor as isolationist, as a lot of people think.

    You may also want to think about how much of a lap cat you really want; my velcro cat thinks sitting ANYWHERE means he needs to be in my lap, and standing is practically sitting, isn’t it? ISN’T IT? Wait until you have a 14-pound cat swarm up you to be held. ALL THE TIME. It makes accomplishing much at home a little tough. And if my brother’s there, he starts to herd us onto the couch, so he can sit between us, touching us both. Yes. I have a cat who herds people. Is this what you want? That said, it sounds as if Ava is progressing very nicely, and you will have a very happy little companion kitty. I don’t know how much time on the floor you or your boyfriend spend with Ava; that may also make her a little more inclined to get in his lap, if he sits cross-legged on the floor. It makes more area for her to settle into. Please keep us updated on her progress!

  • I've only had dogs says:

    Thanks so much to everyone who cared enough about Ava to give advice; I really appreciate it. For unrelated reasons, we were unable to adopt Ava, but she did find a forever home soon afterwards, for which we are grateful. My boyfriend and I are looking forward to fostering and adopting in the future, both cats and dogs.

  • Em says:

    Summer: I agree with what people have said so far. You really don’t owe this guy diddly squat, and it’s really not your problem if he feels awkward. But one feature of Facebook you might find comforting is that if you ignore a friend request, the person who requested it is not informed.

    If they even remember to check, all the ignored person knows is they’re still not your friend. Keep ignoring him and he’ll be left to assume that you’re a stranger with the same name.

    Dogs: I’m glad Ava did find a good home. I hope your boyfriend finds a cat that will snuggle on his lap. :) (My cat is also not a lap cat. Occasionally she’ll walk accross your legs though, and you’ll feel priviledged too.)

  • Sarah says:

    Dogs: I nth (second, third, …nth) all those people who recommend giving it time. One of our cats was 6, 7 years old, blind in one eye and living in the street when we adopted him. He had to be cuatious to survive, and for a year he wouldn’t come near the couch, the bed, or even let us touch him without warning. We quickly learned his paticular outlet for affection – hold your hand near his good eye, and wait for him to rub his head against it, then we could touch him and he wan’t afraid. 18 months in our home, and he lets us touch his head, kiss him without warning, he sits near us on the couch, cuddles when we’re in bed, but still he has his own limits. He doesn’t tolerate being picked up. For him, it’s still too vulnerable. But, like all of us, I’m hopeful one day he’ll trust one enough to get past the last barrier. And even if he doesn’t, we share plenty of affection with him, on both sides.

    Ava will find her own way to show affection in her own time, and that way might change over the years. In the meantime, the cushion (or a blanket) sounds like a tempting cat-seat, and you can rest assured that she’s happy in your home.

  • Linda says:

    Never underestimate the power of what Dr. Drew (that’s right, I said it) calls Behaving As If. It’s absolutely not always the way to go, but there’s such a thing as Behave As If you just don’t CARE about the Facebook guy anymore, and just ignoring the request. I absolutely do not think you want to be FB friends with him — not because of the point you make by accepting or rejecting the request, but because being friends will mean you get constant little updates about him, which means this will all be poked over and over and over again.

    So if you don’t want to be his friend, your choices are (1) communicate that to him; or (2) communicate nothing to him. Some people definitely enjoy catharsis, but my sense is that at this point, that would not help you. You don’t seem to feel like you need it, and didn’t feel like you needed it before this happened. You just want this guy to not exist in your orbit, and the great thing is that you have the power to make that happen by Behaving As If he doesn’t exist. I say ignore it, forget it, and continue having the life you have now.

  • Jacqueline says:

    Dogs: A bit late, but I thought I’d put in my two sense worth.

    My mother’s boss has a cat that is just…odd. He sounds a bit similar to your recent adoptee; you go to pet him, and rather than arch up into your hand, he kinda shrinks away from it. He’ll rub on your legs, but if you go to pick him up or scratch him behind the ears, he’s all hyper sensitive and will walk away, only to return thirty seconds later to rub on your legs again. He’s always had a loving home, he plays, is healthy etc. His wiring is just a bit crossed so that he doesn’t respond in the traditional way to affection.

    Time may change your cat, but don’t be too concerned if it doesn’t. If he’s following you guys around, he obviously likes you, he just might not be too good with the physical affection.

  • Kelsey says:

    Dogs – My very first pet was a cat, and I loved it and wanted it to curl up next to me on my bed just like the cool pets in the movies. The cat loved me, and slept in my bed every night, but simply refused to cuddle with anything except the bottoms of my feet. If I was lucky, she curled in the crook of my knees. She just wasn’t much on affection, and some cats are like that. However, I got this cat at age nine, and by the time I was seventeen Cupcake had a complete personality transplant and wanted to cuddle with everyone, anytime, anywhere. I guess she just got tired of being so pointedly aloof the time, or mellowed with age or something.

    My point is that some cats just aren’t lap cats, as much as you want them to be. The key difference between cats and dogs is that dogs actually love you, while most cats would eat you for lunch if they were big enough. And maybe your cat will become a cuddly lap cat, given time, but maybe she just doesn’t do cuddling. Human that you are, you will probably love her anyway. :)

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