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The Vine: March 28, 2001

Submitted by on March 28, 2001 – 8:53 PMNo Comment

Dear Sarah,

I really admire your writing and generally agree with your advice, but I think you were, well off the mark, with the advice to the Not-So-Newlywed Bride. You did say — accurately in my opinion — that if they couldn’t take the vacation, they couldn’t, and they should explain the situation to the best man. Personally, I don’t see what the big deal is with this all together. Presumably, since he was the best man, he’s a close friend, and will understand. I think this came across in your column. But then you went on advise this woman further, saying that they really, really should take the vacation. Here’s where my problem is.

You say you “don’t mean to be flip” but that unless this woman’s children are on the verge of death, they should basically find a way to go. Now, this woman’s children or child may actually be seriously ill, or yes, dying. Of course, I would guess if they were, she would be more concerned about that than about this gift. But the point is, you don’t know what is going on in this family. You have no conception of their lives or their children’s needs. A topic in Hissyfits right now is about spoiled children’s bad behavior. One mother posted to this thread, reminding everybody that you don’t know what is going on right then in these people’s lives, and you just might want to consider giving them a break. Exactly. Unless children are being abused, please MYOB. When you suggested that this woman “cut the cord,” you stepped over the line, and missed the chance to make another very good point.

Gifts like this woman received shouldn’t be given without consultation to the giftees. Any gift that requires effort on the part of the person(s) receiving it should be asked about. This applies to pets, vacations, tickets to events, et cetera. First of all, they may not want that gift. They may not like a particular show or artist. They may not care for dogs or Hawaii. More importantly, they may not be able to use that gift, or in the case of a pet, take care of it. Pets have to have shots; they should be spayed or neutered, as you recently pointed out. They also need regular pet appointments as well as affection. Some people, for whatever reason, may not be up for the expense of money or time. So you don’t get a pet for someone without consulting him/her. Same thing for vacations. You suggested that these people take off for a few days and leave their kids with a caretaker. Now, even assuming that these people didn’t have “child-related obligations,” presumably they have to pay for the caretaker. Even presuming that the voucher given covers everything at the lodge (which it probably didn’t), I’m guessing the best man isn’t going to pay for a babysitter. The couple also probably has to take off work. All of this costs money and they might not have it to spend, or would prefer to spend it on other things. If this guy is such a great friend, he could have written them a cheque. Then they could have decided how to spend the money, and when, without someone else deciding for them, just like they should be able to decide on how to raise their children, and how much, and when those children need them.

People shouldn’t give gifts that carry obligations with them. They shouldn’t tell parents the right way to raise their children. People have different lives and different belief systems. Good friends will respect this. A good friend would understand when the not-so-newlywed bride explained that a vacation couldn’t be used. But of course, in my opinion, a good friend would have asked before giving such a gift. Gifts don’t always have to be suprises,and some just shouldn’t be.

A believer of the “My life is my own” sentiment

Dear Believer,

Hello…it’s a gift. The best man didn’t lose a bet, for god’s sake; I don’t think he’s required to plan for every single contingency of the new couple’s life, and if the groom gets carsick or the bride doesn’t have a proper suitcase, well, that’s not his problem. He gave them a gift, one he thought they’d enjoy, and they should accept it — and use it — in that spirit.

No, I don’t know the specifics of Not-So-Newlywed Bride’s life; neither do you, because she didn’t furnish any. She did not say that her child had non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma or cystic fibrosis and required constant care. She did not say that she had no money to pay for a caretaker. She did not say that she can’t take any more time off work or she’ll get fired. She did not say, period. Based on the information that she gave me, I advised her, and just as her husband’s friend shouldn’t have to guess every single detail when giving a gift, nor should I when giving advice. I can only base my counsel on what I’m told, and here’s what I was told: “child-related obligations.” With that in mind, we’ve got two separate issues here: whether or not gifts are the responsibility of the giver or of the receiver; and whether or not a newlywed couple can leave their child(ren) for two cotton-picking days and have some time alone.

Of course NSNB can talk to the best man about the various logistical difficulties she’s having in using the lodge voucher, whatever they may be; perhaps he can babysit, or lend her money for gas, or whatever. But again, it’s a gift. You don’t haggle over gifts; you just accept them in the spirit in which they’re offered, and it’s tacky for them to do, and for you to suggest, otherwise.

I stand by my advice. Unless the child is dying or NSNB just filed for Chapter 11, NSNB and her husband should just use the voucher already. Leave the baby with Grandma, throw a breast pump in your overnight bag, and get on with it. This isn’t the best man’s responsibility.

Hey Sars,

I have a son and I have yet to leave him with a babysitter for more than a few hours at most. He is with me or my husband ALL DAY. He’s not yet school age. Long-short: I know how she feels about the child obligations. But I’d be damned if I wouldn’t find SOMEONE to watch my little monster for the weekend if our best man had given us such a gift. So my folks are two states away and we don’t speak anymore; I’d call my Gram. Gram busy? I’d call every damned friend I ever had and find someone willing to be responsible for two days. Heck, get the guy who GAVE you the gift to watch the rugrats! There are ways, girl. Sounds to me like she needs the getaway a lot more than she realizes. As you so eloquently said: Cut the cord already.

Sith Goddess

Dear Sith,

Exactly my point.

I don’t have kids. I don’t like kids; they make me nervous. But I have friends with kids, and I understand the issues involved. The kids get brought to everything — funerals, tours of Europe for business, you name it — and that’s as it should be. But sometimes, for their own sanity, my friends have to leave the kids at home for a day or two and kick back in a Barney-free environment, or get a sitter for a few hours so that they can have some loud sex, and that’s as it should be too.

Parents sacrifice for their children. That’s part of parenthood. But a weekend of relaxation isn’t out of line as a gift.

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