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The Vine: May 25, 2001

Submitted by on May 25, 2001 – 2:25 PMNo Comment

Dear Sarah,

My mother did the exact same thing Lucy’s mom did to her. Only she had two more kids with the new man and decided that the mistake she had made in high school (i.e. me) could just disappear. She has one grandson she never sees. She doesn’t send cards or gifts for birthdays or Christmas anymore. She doesn’t call. She doesn’t write. She NEVER comes to visit. But when I make a point of pinning her down at her work, she acts like nothing ever went wrong between us. Lucy needs to realize that there is no way you can make your parents be what you need. They either are or they are not. The best thing she can do is get out of the situation for a little while and really examine her relationship with her mother. I gave up on my mother. There is a whole lot of anger and bitterness towards her because I really can’t talk to her, no matter how many times I have tried to make her understand how I feel. But there comes a point when you just have to let go for your own good. I hope Lucy and her mom can communicate, but if they can’t, Lucy needs to look after her own mental well-being. I hope it works out for her.

Tracey

Dear Tracey,

Amen.

I’d also like to add that Lucy should look into going to a family therapist, because sometimes parents just suck and it’s nobody’s fault, but it’s still really difficult to deal with on a lot of levels.

Hi Sars,

First of all, thanks for your columns. Reading them is my catharsis at the end of the day. I just started reading the Vine and always feel like you give out the same advice I’d give if asked. Now I have a problem that I can’t logic my way out of, given that I’m in the middle of it, and would really like to know what you think.

My closest friend (and here I should add that we’ve always been the role model for the Healthy, Platonic Male-Female Friendship in our circle) is brilliant, creative, a really good person in most ways and not so good at relationships. I know this because I’ve been around to witness the awful endings of his past two serious relationships and have seen them disintegrate due to, among other things, a couple of really bad behaviors on his part (not slimy or mean, just spineless).

Anyway, here’s the thing. Several months ago, totally unexpectedly, we slept together. It was really, really nice, and, as time passed, it kept happening. Oddly enough, things haven’t changed so much (with the exception of me feeling really giddy and smitten all the time). We still interact, pal-like, in the same ways as before — things have just kind of expanded. A few nights ago, however, we had the long overdue The Hell? talk where we both kind of mumbled that we like each other That Way and what should we do? I told him I was into it and wanted to give it a shot;
he said he felt the same way but was worried about me becoming one of “the canon” (e.g. ex-girlfriends who go crazy and then drop off the face of the earth, vowing to kill him when he tries to weasel his way out of the relationship). In fact, he said, “I don’t handle these things well — I really like you and don’t want to do this to you, too.”

So. What to do? I really, really, really like this guy. I see things working out between us. Can I continue to pursue? Do I hold off until he gets his girl issues worked out? Does he have all the power to decide what happens now, since he’s the one who isn’t sure of things? Is it hopeless? I just don’t know how to act, I guess — I’m having a really hard time pretending to be cool about it when inside I’m feeling all gooshy.

Thanks a lot for any advice you’ve got, and if nothing else, for giving me the opportunity to vent to a neutral source. I appreciate it.

Conflicted’s Friend

Dear Friend,

Thanks for the compliments.

You know, I’ve gotten myself into a similar situation several times in the past, and here’s the thing: you need to make it clear to him that, while you love him as a friend and you like him That Way too, you won’t stand for the squirrelly shit he’s pulled on women in the past.

I know how you feel — he’s a close friend, so you can’t vent to him about it because it’s, you know, him, and you feel all dislocated and off your game because it’s at the next level and you’ve seen him naked, and on the one hand you feel like you can trust it not to blow up in your face because you’ve been friends for so long, but on the other hand you don’t know if you can trust your instincts this time, and your mind becomes this whirling vortex of neurotic chattering. Been there, lost sleep over that. Try not to overthink it. Go forward if you want to go forward, but again, let him know that you know how he gets, and if you see him getting that way, he’s also “getting” a boot to the ass.

When friendship turns into love, it’s a wonderful thing — but it’s not always smooth. Just keep the lines of communication open, and urge him to level with you, regardless of what he’s going to say, because as his friend, you deserve that much. That way, if it doesn’t work out romantically, at least you can still respect him as a human being.

Good luck. Keep me posted.

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